Secondly, it takes a particular historical narrative and converts it into a universalized narrative that no longer has anything to do with the vicissitudes and accidents of history. The diagram has two axes universal-particular, personal-political , creating four quadrants. The top half of the diagram characterizes modernity, the bottom half postmodernity, but that is incidental. Tom Wright would probably put Romans in the top right quadrant.
But the point to be stressed is that the controlling political-particular narrative had—and continues to have— radical implications for individuals. Evangelism was and is the call to people everywhere to respond to the large-scale story about God, the people of God, Jesus, the nations, and the renewal of creation.
The narrative approach does not exclude the agenda of modern evangelism. But it does radically and disconcertingly reframe it. One of the problems with the Romans Road theology is that it not only starts but also ends in the universal-personal quadrant. It has proved very difficult for such a highly individualistic conception of salvation and the spiritual life to embrace the political and particular dimensions of human existence.
If we start where Paul starts, we get everything. If we start where modern evangelicalism starts, we get very little. So what I would say to evangelists today is not that they should stop saving souls but that their preaching should begin and end with the bigger story. It is much more important to proclaim that Jesus died for the sins of Israel, that God raised him from the dead and made him Lord over the nations, etc. We have domesticated evangelism. We have reduced it to the unimaginative, repetitive level of the door-to-door selling of life insurance.
We should be appalled at this. Modern evangelism is virtually calculated not to disturb the status quo. Evangelism should challenge the bedrock of our culture. It should shake the bedrock of the modern church, for that matter. How are we now to respond to the proclamation that Jesus has been made judge and ruler of the nations when, to all intents and purposes, he has been dethroned by the all-powerful gods of our secular age? Evangelism, I think, ought to be a very disturbing activity for everyone concerned.
Good points Andrew. This post reveals where I think you need to re-visit your view of the Nations in Revelation. In Revelation the Nations are always antagonistic toward God and His people. They are eventually thrown into the Lake of Fire you reference in this post. This seems to indicate that God is forever offering life to the Nations. Andrew, this is an important post.
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I warmly agree with much of what you say. There are a number of related questions. It is a fresh expression of church where the heartlands of faith happen in the walking. Our experience with Walking Church highlights the relevance of the literal road and the value of slow evangelism. In part this journeying approach enables us to connect the wider dimensions of evangelism e. For me the issue with Roman Road is not primarily that it is personal, but that it is yet another formula reaching for a decision at breathless haste.
The parable of the wheat and the tares is a partial answer, but not complete.
Does God really just sit back, deist-style, and wait for the end of the universe? I am sorry, but I can not bring myself to agree with your logic. Romans shows where Christ died for all; first for the Jews then for the Gentiles. And I believe that The Romans Road is a great way to present that fact. But your argument to debunk this presentation of the gospel seems to negate that fact.
Also in your article I see where you make the argument that Romans was written for the Jews and Gentiles of early times. If one part was for them original audience and the other for us current audience then that would make the Bible unreliable.
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Should we take ALL of it literal? When we decide to say that some parts are relevant for us and some are not, we consequently decide that the Bible can not believed wholly. It also has radical, life-changing implications for people today, which is a point I have been labouring to get across recently. My argument back to you would be that this approach takes the Bible more seriously and, frankly, more literally than the approach which treats it as all written primarily and directly for the universal reader.
You say:. I hear many people and pastors talking about it. I keep coming across one very big thing that is missing. All the way through this Romans Road there is no mention of Baptism. Without Baptism I do not see where this romans road can really get you anywhere unless you are just trying to get someone into the churh which is at least a start.
The point of the post, though, Darin, is that there is a lot more wrong with the Romans Road model of personal evangelism than the omission of baptism. I presume that most traditional evangelists expect their converts to get baptized at some point. Paul states that the Gospel is the Power of God to Salvation.
I teach youth grades at our home church. As we mature, we should ask the Holy Spirit to reveal deeper meanings to us when we read and study the Bible. They need to know the basics of salvation to be SAVED first, not the complete historical implications and political agendas of years ago.
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I understand the problem. But this sort of dilemma arises the way it does because these conversations are played out against a modern theological background, a reductionist worldview. This worldview provides the default position. It defines our beliefs, our presuppositions, sets the parameters for thought, without us realizing it, and we absorb it from a very early age in our churches. If we developed a different world view—one which quite naturally thought and read scripture in narrative terms, for example—the distinction between milk and meat would look very different.
This discussion is terrific and that there is such an interest is encouraging.
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If the subject matter is the public proclamation of the Gospel, then why not first look at what John the Baptist told people. He got his message from God the Father. Why try to use scriptues written for the edification of the saints in the setting forth of systematic theology to unbelievers? This same savior who died for you will cast your poor soul into the lake of fire if you reject him.
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Much love to the saints of God. Maybe what you are saying about the "Roman Road" is that it looks like a bunch of flowers in a vase clipped from it's roots. Salvation, whether for an individual or a National, must have an intimate encounter with the Living Lord. There is a transaction where the Spirit of God bears witness to your spirit that you have passed from death to life. When that happens Everything in the Bible, from beginning to end is a Revelation of the Triune God who reveals Himself through Christ who is not only our Sovereign Creator but our Savior, our Comforter, our Shepherd, our King, our Advocate, Intercessor, Deliverer, and the list goes on I think The Romans Road is just a tool that can be used along with other bible verse.
adnorvelea.tk The gospel that the early disciples preached every day is not the gospel that mostly gets preached in our churches. There is no excuse for that. Andrew, I always look at the person believer of unique quality God created ,in joy of the diversity,with which, HE made them for His purposes. The mind of Christ is impressive in its God given meditations and revelations. It is a mind that will receive the wisdom,knowledge,and understanding of the Triune God. The Word of God, Is always meant to glorify the Lord.
I thank you for showing that perspective,and so it is said. The gospel should always reflect the precision,accuracy of the Truth of His Holiness in wholesomeness.